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jehovah's witnesses refer to their
00:04
religion as the truth they claim to be
00:07
the only true religion that understands
00:09
what the Bible teaches they also believe
00:12
they are the only ones who understand
00:13
Biblical prophecy and that they are the
00:15
only organization that imitates the
00:17
first century Christian congregation the
00:20
problem with this is that their
00:22
doctrines have changed numerous times
00:24
over the years if today Jehovah's
00:27
Witnesses are the truth that means that
00:30
yesterday it wasn't the truth since what
00:33
they teach today is not the same as what
00:36
they taught in the past truth is to find
00:39
as things with a basis in actuality fact
00:42
or reality if what you believed prior
00:45
was later proven to be false than it was
00:48
never the truth but Jehovah's Witnesses
00:51
will never admit that their prior system
00:54
of belief was not the truth if you ask
00:57
one of Jehovah's Witnesses about these
00:59
doctrinal changes though refer to the
01:01
change not as the correction of a
01:04
mistake but as new light from God this
01:08
classification of new light breaks down
01:11
under scrutiny however for instance from
01:14
1880 up until 1954 watchtower promoted
01:19
the worship of both Jehovah and Jesus as
01:22
God's making it a polytheistic religion
01:25
and 1954 worshipping Jesus became a dis
01:30
fellowshiping offense if Jill was
01:32
witnesses were being guided by Holy
01:34
Spirit to the truth would God really
01:38
have guided them to wrongly worship
01:40
someone else in addition to himself for
01:43
almost 75 years did Jehovah's Witnesses
01:47
have the truth when they worshiped both
01:50
Jehovah and Jesus or was it a false
01:52
religion because it taught a form of
01:55
worship that's contrary to was actually
01:57
true that is it's not based in fact or
02:01
reality another example is the
02:04
celebration of Christmas up until 1926
02:07
watchtower endorsed the celebration of
02:10
Christmas in 1927 it was outlawed as a
02:13
pagan
02:14
celebration so for almost 50 years
02:18
Christmas was okay and then it wasn't
02:21
keep in mind that Watchtower claims the
02:24
organization was cleansed of impurity in
02:27
1919 and yet the celebration of
02:29
Christmas persisted for another seven
02:32
years after that if it was cleansed and
02:35
Christmas was pagan why wasn't the
02:38
celebration of the holiday stopped in
02:40
1919 if Christmas is and always has been
02:44
a pagan holiday and yet Watchtower
02:47
endorsed its celebration for decades
02:49
wasn't Watchtower system of belief just
02:52
another false religion up until the time
02:54
Christmas was prohibited it could not
02:57
have been the truth both before and
03:00
after the change because before the
03:03
change it wasn't based in fact or
03:06
reality if after the change it was
03:10
before the change it must have been a
03:13
falsehood not the truth those are only a
03:17
few of dozens of examples of doctrinal
03:20
changes over the years
03:21
if Chavez witnesses really had the truth
03:25
it would never change at all either the
03:28
moon is made out of cheese or it isn't
03:31
either the earth is the center of the
03:33
universe or it isn't there were times
03:36
when both of those things were believed
03:39
to be true but they never were the truth
03:43
they were always false the truth doesn't
03:46
change from day to day only people's
03:49
opinions change clearly Jehovah's
03:52
Witnesses do not have the truth because
03:55
their belief system continually changes
03:58
another problem with Jehovah's Witnesses
04:01
labeling their doctrinal changes as new
04:03
light is that some doctrines have
04:05
completely flip-flopped
04:07
for instance up until 1929 the superior
04:11
authorities of Romans chapter 13 were
04:13
believed to be the governments of the
04:15
world in 1929 watchtower change that
04:19
belief saying it was referring to
04:20
Jehovah God and Jesus not the
04:22
government's that remained their
04:25
interpretation until 1962
04:27
when they changed it back to the
04:29
original understanding and today
04:32
jehovah's witnesses continue to believe
04:34
that the superior authorities are
04:36
referring to world governments if the
04:39
change in belief in 1929 was new light
04:42
from god
04:43
why did watch tower later regress back
04:45
into the old darkness the original
04:48
understanding that's not new light
04:51
that's a mistake
04:53
that had to be corrected let's just call
04:55
it what it is but Watchtower never
04:58
admits to making mistakes ever another
05:03
example of doctrinal flip-flopping is
05:05
organ transplants in 1961 it was left up
05:09
to each individual to decide for
05:11
themselves whether they wanted a
05:12
transplant but by 1967 organ transplants
05:16
had been completely prohibited being
05:18
labeled cannibalism
05:20
however in 1980 that doctrine was
05:23
reversed back to the original doctrine
05:26
of it being left up to the individual
05:28
again if the change from a transplant
05:31
being left up to the individual to it
05:33
being absolutely prohibited was new
05:36
light from God why was the new light
05:39
reversed in a return to the old darkness
05:42
of it being a personal decision
05:45
Jehovah's Witnesses take what they call
05:47
the truth so seriously that a person can
05:51
be disfellowshipped and shunned if they
05:53
openly declare they do not agree with
05:55
one of the teachings from The Watchtower
05:58
Watchtower calls any dissension from
06:01
their current version of the truth
06:03
apostasy here's an example of why that's
06:06
a problem today watchtower prohibits
06:10
whole blood transfusions if a witness
06:13
were to get a blood transfusion despite
06:15
this prohibition they would be announced
06:17
as no longer being one of Java's
06:19
witnesses and shunned losing all contact
06:21
with any family and friends who are
06:23
Jehovah's Witnesses but if the no blood
06:26
doctrine was changed tomorrow
06:28
the person who broke the rule yesterday
06:31
that is no longer a rule today would not
06:34
be allowed back in nor would they be
06:36
apologized to for the mistake made by
06:39
Watchtower in the enormous
06:41
oil from being shunned Watchtower openly
06:44
admits that its governing body is
06:46
neither inspired nor infallible so why
06:49
is it that they remove people for
06:51
disobeying the rules they admit are just
06:55
the interpretations of men especially
06:57
since those interpretations change on a
07:00
regular basis there's nothing wrong with
07:03
living by a system of beliefs based on
07:05
interpretation and there's nothing wrong
07:07
with refining that belief system over
07:10
time and making improvements there is a
07:13
serious problem however with claiming
07:16
your way is the only truth when that way
07:20
is continually changing and an even
07:23
bigger problem in disfellowshipping and
07:26
shunning people who do not accept your
07:28
ever-changing belief system as the truth
07:32
think about the ramifications here when
07:35
a person studies to become one of
07:37
Jehovah's Witnesses they are told
07:39
repeatedly that the witnesses have the
07:42
truth let's say the student agrees and
07:45
gets baptized based on what they were
07:47
taught as the truth when that so-called
07:50
truth later changes and it inevitably
07:53
will if the student sticks to the
07:56
original truth they were taught they
07:58
will be disfellowshipped and shunned as
08:01
an apostate for believing what they were
08:03
taught was the truth not long before the
08:07
change it's absurd as I said in the
08:11
beginning Jehovah's Witnesses also
08:13
believe they have the truth because they
08:16
understand Bible prophecy and nobody
08:18
else does let's put that claim under
08:21
scrutiny as well in 1920 Watchtower
08:25
published a booklet titled millions now
08:28
living will never die the title really
08:30
says at all
08:31
because Watchtower then believed that to
08:33
be a statement of fact it was based on a
08:36
sermon given by Joseph F Rutherford in
08:39
1918 that was over 100 years ago and
08:44
obviously that interpretation of
08:46
prophecy turned out to be false
08:49
not the truth in 1984 Watchtower again
08:54
made a bold prediction
08:55
with the may 15th edition of The
08:57
Watchtower magazine carrying the title
09:00
1914 the generation that will not pass
09:04
away on the cover many elderly people
09:07
are depicted which Watchtower clearly
09:10
expected to live in to the Paradise they
09:12
say is coming that was 35 years ago
09:16
based on the ages of the people on the
09:18
cover I think it's safe to say that
09:21
they're all dead so was watchtowers
09:25
interpretation of prophecy the truth no
09:28
it was false not an organization to be
09:32
deterred by continual failure and
09:34
prophetic fulfillment however Watchtower
09:36
tried again in the January 1st 1989
09:40
Watchtower where it stated that their
09:42
preaching work would be completed in the
09:45
20th century Ashe ring in the promised
09:48
paradise but it's 2019 and Jehovah's
09:51
Witnesses are still preaching was
09:54
watchtowers interpretation of prophecy
09:56
the truth no it was yet again false if
10:01
it wasn't the truth and the religion was
10:05
not teaching the truth well that makes
10:08
it just another one of what Watchtower
10:10
calls a false religion if it's not true
10:14
it's false you can't be the truth if
10:17
what you taught was not true let's recap
10:23
one Jehovah's Witnesses claim their
10:26
religion is the truth - truth is defined
10:31
as things with a basis in actuality fact
10:34
or reality 3 Jobos witnesses have
10:39
changed their doctrines repeatedly over
10:41
the years for Chavez witnesses
10:45
interpretations of end times prophecies
10:47
have also repeatedly failed to come true
10:51
conclusion Java's witnesses are not the
10:56
truth while this seems obvious to anyone
10:59
from the outside looking in
11:01
witnesses are taught that it is still
11:04
the truth it's just been refined with
11:07
new light from God
11:09
however the flip-flopping of doctrines
11:12
such as of the superior authorities and
11:14
the permissibility of Oregon transplants
11:17
proves that cannot be true either if God
11:21
was giving Jehovah's Witnesses new light
11:23
their doctrines would not fall back into
11:26
the old darkness that they were
11:27
previously Watchtower has painted itself
11:31
into a corner here if they have the
11:34
truth then their predictions should come
11:36
true and their beliefs should not change
11:39
since neither of those things are the
11:41
case they are forced to continually
11:44
issue corrections in the form of new
11:47
light that can also easily be debunked
11:50
if they admit they were wrong but have
11:53
disfellowshipped and shunned people for
11:55
rejecting their wrong beliefs and
11:57
refused to readmit them or apologize for
12:00
the mistake then at best they are
12:02
clearly exposing themselves as a false
12:05
religion and at worst they open
12:07
themselves up for serious legal action
12:10
that might be taken against them by the
12:12
people they have wronged is it any
12:15
wonder that 66% of people born into the
12:18
organization of Jehovah's Witnesses in
12:20
the United States leave the religion all
12:23
of this provides evidence that one
12:26
statement made by the watchtower is
12:29
verifiably and repeatably true however
12:32
the governing body is neither inspired
12:35
nor infallible
12:46
you
12:46
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(13 Apr, 2019, 02:32 PM)JoseFidencioR escribió: jehovah's witnesses refer to their
00:04
religion as the truth they claim to be
00:07
the only true religion that understands
00:09
what the Bible teaches they also believe
00:12
they are the only ones who understand
00:13
Biblical prophecy and that they are the
00:15
only organization that imitates the
00:17
first century Christian congregation the
00:20
problem with this is that their
00:22
doctrines have changed numerous times
00:24
over the years if today Jehovah's
00:27
Witnesses are the truth that means that
00:30
yesterday it wasn't the truth since what
00:33
they teach today is not the same as what
00:36
they taught in the past truth is to find
00:39
as things with a basis in actuality fact
00:42
or reality if what you believed prior
00:45
was later proven to be false than it was
00:48
never the truth but Jehovah's Witnesses
00:51
will never admit that their prior system
00:54
of belief was not the truth if you ask
00:57
one of Jehovah's Witnesses about these
00:59
doctrinal changes though refer to the
01:01
change not as the correction of a
01:04
mistake but as new light from God this
01:08
classification of new light breaks down
01:11
under scrutiny however for instance from
01:14
1880 up until 1954 watchtower promoted
01:19
the worship of both Jehovah and Jesus as
01:22
God's making it a polytheistic religion
01:25
and 1954 worshipping Jesus became a dis
01:30
fellowshiping offense if Jill was
01:32
witnesses were being guided by Holy
01:34
Spirit to the truth would God really
01:38
have guided them to wrongly worship
01:40
someone else in addition to himself for
01:43
almost 75 years did Jehovah's Witnesses
01:47
have the truth when they worshiped both
01:50
Jehovah and Jesus or was it a false
01:52
religion because it taught a form of
01:55
worship that's contrary to was actually
01:57
true that is it's not based in fact or
02:01
reality another example is the
02:04
celebration of Christmas up until 1926
02:07
watchtower endorsed the celebration of
02:10
Christmas in 1927 it was outlawed as a
02:13
pagan
02:14
celebration so for almost 50 years
02:18
Christmas was okay and then it wasn't
02:21
keep in mind that Watchtower claims the
02:24
organization was cleansed of impurity in
02:27
1919 and yet the celebration of
02:29
Christmas persisted for another seven
02:32
years after that if it was cleansed and
02:35
Christmas was pagan why wasn't the
02:38
celebration of the holiday stopped in
02:40
1919 if Christmas is and always has been
02:44
a pagan holiday and yet Watchtower
02:47
endorsed its celebration for decades
02:49
wasn't Watchtower system of belief just
02:52
another false religion up until the time
02:54
Christmas was prohibited it could not
02:57
have been the truth both before and
03:00
after the change because before the
03:03
change it wasn't based in fact or
03:06
reality if after the change it was
03:10
before the change it must have been a
03:13
falsehood not the truth those are only a
03:17
few of dozens of examples of doctrinal
03:20
changes over the years
03:21
if Chavez witnesses really had the truth
03:25
it would never change at all either the
03:28
moon is made out of cheese or it isn't
03:31
either the earth is the center of the
03:33
universe or it isn't there were times
03:36
when both of those things were believed
03:39
to be true but they never were the truth
03:43
they were always false the truth doesn't
03:46
change from day to day only people's
03:49
opinions change clearly Jehovah's
03:52
Witnesses do not have the truth because
03:55
their belief system continually changes
03:58
another problem with Jehovah's Witnesses
04:01
labeling their doctrinal changes as new
04:03
light is that some doctrines have
04:05
completely flip-flopped
04:07
for instance up until 1929 the superior
04:11
authorities of Romans chapter 13 were
04:13
believed to be the governments of the
04:15
world in 1929 watchtower change that
04:19
belief saying it was referring to
04:20
Jehovah God and Jesus not the
04:22
government's that remained their
04:25
interpretation until 1962
04:27
when they changed it back to the
04:29
original understanding and today
04:32
jehovah's witnesses continue to believe
04:34
that the superior authorities are
04:36
referring to world governments if the
04:39
change in belief in 1929 was new light
04:42
from god
04:43
why did watch tower later regress back
04:45
into the old darkness the original
04:48
understanding that's not new light
04:51
that's a mistake
04:53
that had to be corrected let's just call
04:55
it what it is but Watchtower never
04:58
admits to making mistakes ever another
05:03
example of doctrinal flip-flopping is
05:05
organ transplants in 1961 it was left up
05:09
to each individual to decide for
05:11
themselves whether they wanted a
05:12
transplant but by 1967 organ transplants
05:16
had been completely prohibited being
05:18
labeled cannibalism
05:20
however in 1980 that doctrine was
05:23
reversed back to the original doctrine
05:26
of it being left up to the individual
05:28
again if the change from a transplant
05:31
being left up to the individual to it
05:33
being absolutely prohibited was new
05:36
light from God why was the new light
05:39
reversed in a return to the old darkness
05:42
of it being a personal decision
05:45
Jehovah's Witnesses take what they call
05:47
the truth so seriously that a person can
05:51
be disfellowshipped and shunned if they
05:53
openly declare they do not agree with
05:55
one of the teachings from The Watchtower
05:58
Watchtower calls any dissension from
06:01
their current version of the truth
06:03
apostasy here's an example of why that's
06:06
a problem today watchtower prohibits
06:10
whole blood transfusions if a witness
06:13
were to get a blood transfusion despite
06:15
this prohibition they would be announced
06:17
as no longer being one of Java's
06:19
witnesses and shunned losing all contact
06:21
with any family and friends who are
06:23
Jehovah's Witnesses but if the no blood
06:26
doctrine was changed tomorrow
06:28
the person who broke the rule yesterday
06:31
that is no longer a rule today would not
06:34
be allowed back in nor would they be
06:36
apologized to for the mistake made by
06:39
Watchtower in the enormous
06:41
oil from being shunned Watchtower openly
06:44
admits that its governing body is
06:46
neither inspired nor infallible so why
06:49
is it that they remove people for
06:51
disobeying the rules they admit are just
06:55
the interpretations of men especially
06:57
since those interpretations change on a
07:00
regular basis there's nothing wrong with
07:03
living by a system of beliefs based on
07:05
interpretation and there's nothing wrong
07:07
with refining that belief system over
07:10
time and making improvements there is a
07:13
serious problem however with claiming
07:16
your way is the only truth when that way
07:20
is continually changing and an even
07:23
bigger problem in disfellowshipping and
07:26
shunning people who do not accept your
07:28
ever-changing belief system as the truth
07:32
think about the ramifications here when
07:35
a person studies to become one of
07:37
Jehovah's Witnesses they are told
07:39
repeatedly that the witnesses have the
07:42
truth let's say the student agrees and
07:45
gets baptized based on what they were
07:47
taught as the truth when that so-called
07:50
truth later changes and it inevitably
07:53
will if the student sticks to the
07:56
original truth they were taught they
07:58
will be disfellowshipped and shunned as
08:01
an apostate for believing what they were
08:03
taught was the truth not long before the
08:07
change it's absurd as I said in the
08:11
beginning Jehovah's Witnesses also
08:13
believe they have the truth because they
08:16
understand Bible prophecy and nobody
08:18
else does let's put that claim under
08:21
scrutiny as well in 1920 Watchtower
08:25
published a booklet titled millions now
08:28
living will never die the title really
08:30
says at all
08:31
because Watchtower then believed that to
08:33
be a statement of fact it was based on a
08:36
sermon given by Joseph F Rutherford in
08:39
1918 that was over 100 years ago and
08:44
obviously that interpretation of
08:46
prophecy turned out to be false
08:49
not the truth in 1984 Watchtower again
08:54
made a bold prediction
08:55
with the may 15th edition of The
08:57
Watchtower magazine carrying the title
09:00
1914 the generation that will not pass
09:04
away on the cover many elderly people
09:07
are depicted which Watchtower clearly
09:10
expected to live in to the Paradise they
09:12
say is coming that was 35 years ago
09:16
based on the ages of the people on the
09:18
cover I think it's safe to say that
09:21
they're all dead so was watchtowers
09:25
interpretation of prophecy the truth no
09:28
it was false not an organization to be
09:32
deterred by continual failure and
09:34
prophetic fulfillment however Watchtower
09:36
tried again in the January 1st 1989
09:40
Watchtower where it stated that their
09:42
preaching work would be completed in the
09:45
20th century Ashe ring in the promised
09:48
paradise but it's 2019 and Jehovah's
09:51
Witnesses are still preaching was
09:54
watchtowers interpretation of prophecy
09:56
the truth no it was yet again false if
10:01
it wasn't the truth and the religion was
10:05
not teaching the truth well that makes
10:08
it just another one of what Watchtower
10:10
calls a false religion if it's not true
10:14
it's false you can't be the truth if
10:17
what you taught was not true let's recap
10:23
one Jehovah's Witnesses claim their
10:26
religion is the truth - truth is defined
10:31
as things with a basis in actuality fact
10:34
or reality 3 Jobos witnesses have
10:39
changed their doctrines repeatedly over
10:41
the years for Chavez witnesses
10:45
interpretations of end times prophecies
10:47
have also repeatedly failed to come true
10:51
conclusion Java's witnesses are not the
10:56
truth while this seems obvious to anyone
10:59
from the outside looking in
11:01
witnesses are taught that it is still
11:04
the truth it's just been refined with
11:07
new light from God
11:09
however the flip-flopping of doctrines
11:12
such as of the superior authorities and
11:14
the permissibility of Oregon transplants
11:17
proves that cannot be true either if God
11:21
was giving Jehovah's Witnesses new light
11:23
their doctrines would not fall back into
11:26
the old darkness that they were
11:27
previously Watchtower has painted itself
11:31
into a corner here if they have the
11:34
truth then their predictions should come
11:36
true and their beliefs should not change
11:39
since neither of those things are the
11:41
case they are forced to continually
11:44
issue corrections in the form of new
11:47
light that can also easily be debunked
11:50
if they admit they were wrong but have
11:53
disfellowshipped and shunned people for
11:55
rejecting their wrong beliefs and
11:57
refused to readmit them or apologize for
12:00
the mistake then at best they are
12:02
clearly exposing themselves as a false
12:05
religion and at worst they open
12:07
themselves up for serious legal action
12:10
that might be taken against them by the
12:12
people they have wronged is it any
12:15
wonder that 66% of people born into the
12:18
organization of Jehovah's Witnesses in
12:20
the United States leave the religion all
12:23
of this provides evidence that one
12:26
statement made by the watchtower is
12:29
verifiably and repeatably true however
12:32
the governing body is neither inspired
12:35
nor infallible
12:46
you
12:46
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spanish please
Comprendo que la mentira es engaño y la verdad no. Pero a mí me han engañado las dos.
